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Appalled
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« on: April 04, 2005, 06:07:13 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2005, 08:01:46 AM »

whatever.  people sell art to pay the bills. times can be tough. we all know how that goes.  
  
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2005, 06:38:12 PM »

whatever.  people sell art to pay the bills. times can be tough. we all know how that goes. 
 

Yep. Poor "Appalled" is gonna suffer multiple heart attacks if things don't turn around financially for me by the time "The Devil & Daniel Johnston" hits general release. I mean, those pieces were nice enough, but they're of recent vintage and not even particularly inspired (in a relative sense, of course). They're probably not even going to sell for the price the fellow is asking, though by this time next year they might.

I'm broke NOW, but I'm holding my TRULY rare and precious Daniel stuff 'till at least then , so it doesn't quadruple in value right after I sell it and make me pull all my hair out. (FYI: a large price hike is being predicted by folks in the know to coincide with the national/international release of the film & its soundtrack CD, along with the planned box set of recordings planned to follow, plus the already steadily continuing growth of public interest in Daniel).

In fact, I just packaged the hand-recorded tapes (w/hand-drawn covers), original watercolor paintings and assorted other early-to-mid 1980s DJ memorabilia together into one tidy package for my parents to hold onto, partially as collateral for all the dough I've had to borrow from them and the added cash I'll no doubt beg offa them in the future.

(For those who have seen "Devil...", I invited my brother to a showing, and was very surprised he didn't make some comment afterwards regarding Daniel's & his father's statements about the future. They struck pretty close to home ovah heah!)

 - Not Daniel

BTW: All that fantastic DJ artwork that suddenly started showing up recently (and will continue to do so) at the Museum of Love comes from me. Y'see, I cherry-picked 50 or 60 of the absolute most tip-top, mind-blowing works from Daniel's art stash many years ago, back when he would just give away anything to whoever showed up at his place. I never felt that I really OWNED the stuff, though (even though I simultaneously was giving him things like a copy of Strange Tales #114; 1st Silver Age Captain America [prototype] by Jack Kirby, now valued at $450.00 in NM).

My justification for snagging the pile of priceless art, at the time, was that I intended to show it around and maybe help Dan get some art gigs or showings or whatever. Nothing came out of that, at least directly, but on the other hand I prevented the pages from ending up in more unscrupulous hands.

Anyway then, last year once my cash supply totally bottomed out (due to the combination of underemployment, chronic illness, no insurance & ludicrously high-priced prescription drugs required to keep me alive) I passed 95% of the drawings on to the Museum so that Daniel would get (most of) the money for their sale, as it should be. I charged a token amount per drawing as a "storage fee" so, just out of the sheer volume of pages of art involved, I was able to pocket a pretty sweet pile of green paper, while assuring that DJ will still bring in five to ten grand from the works in question.

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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2005, 08:08:57 PM »

I dunno. I think the ebay item (3 framed drawings) is actually fairly priced. I worked as a picture framer by day for the last 17 years at 2 very different but equally high-end galleries. An 8"X10" print of flowers or landscape or bowl of some damn fruit by nobody in particular can easily cost $300.00. Add a matte, glass, and frame (anywhere from $50.00 to $5000.00) and you've got a major investment on your hands. These 3 pieces are "rare" in that they are from a definite series for an album cover.

For my own art, I typically sell something (drawing, painting, etc. ) 8"X10" framed for around $250.00 to $300.00. It will be interesting to see what high bid is.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2005, 10:02:38 PM »

Dan doesn't really get money from the sale of art at the museum of love. Dan gets at most about $10/piece.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2005, 10:13:21 PM »

Dan doesn't really get money from the sale of art at the museum of love. Dan gets at most about $10/piece.

Drew - with all due respect you're misinformed.  Completely.

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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2005, 11:20:02 PM »

ok - inform me
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2005, 06:30:24 AM »

ok - inform me

Drew - Daniel has given me very specific instructions not to discuss his business affairs with overly nosy relatives. I will say that his ability to make good decisions and act in his own best interest is significantly better than certain people would give him credit for. If you want to discuss this further we should probably do it in private. Feel free to email me anytime

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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2005, 10:01:38 AM »

Daniel has given me very specific instructions not to discuss his business affairs...   

Jeff Tartakov

Jiffy Tee - I could SWEAR that I very recently read a detailed description of the deal Daniel has on art sales in a commercially available publication (the Texas Monthly article seems by far to be the most likely possibility, eh?) It gave enough info to straighten out this discussion, at least.

In the belief, then, that this is in fact already publicly accessible information:

The statement said that Daniel does indeed get $10 out of each piece of artwork sold - as immediately available spending money! Meanwhile, the bulk of his profits go straight into the ol’ trust fund to ensure he is financially able to live out his life in a comfortable state of existence.

  - Not Daniel

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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2005, 10:21:51 AM »

Ken - how does whatever you read in Texas monthly relate to Drew's remark?  Are you saying that because you read about someone else's arrangement with Daniel  I'm somehow obligated to disobey his wishes? I'm confused.. huh
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2005, 12:45:34 PM »

I was told by Dan's manager that I could discuss it, and that you could too, hence me commenting on this. As I understand it you give him $10 per piece of art, is that information incorrect?
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2005, 01:37:00 PM »

I was told by Dan's manager that I could discuss it, and that you could too, hence me commenting on this. As I understand it you give him $10 per piece of art, is that information incorrect?

Drew - has it occurred to you that a truthful answer could have negative repercussions for someone I care about and consider a friend?  If so then I hope you'll understand why I choose not to answer the question here.
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2005, 02:29:30 PM »

Seems to me that any time anyone has anything to do with Daniel a certain party gets pissed!!!

Am I the only one?!?!?!
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2005, 03:27:04 PM »

The negative repercussions being that Daniel doesn't get his $10 spending money and you don't get art?

If Daniel is selling you art for $10, and that's all he gets, then maybe Daniel isn't as smart with business decisions as you insist?
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2005, 03:45:35 PM »

The negative repercussions being that Daniel doesn't get his $10 spending money and you don't get art?

If Daniel is selling you art for $10, and that's all he gets, then maybe Daniel isn't as smart with business decisions as you insist?

I've tried to take this to email so I apologize to the board for this ongoing crap. I've never heard anybody other than you and Daniel's manager make the claim that Daniel is selling art to me for $10. How many different ways do I have to tell you to consider your source? That you're misinformed. Mistaken. Wrong. Is it clear yet?
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