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« on: January 05, 2008, 04:49:06 AM »

[...] At least there's no apparent need to cut off any snide, negative comments, as I had to do with Andy Langer at the conclusion of the following clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfl-QvcBCI

  - NotDan [...]

Since a recent new post in the"Dan Interviewed on BBC Radio 2" thread may be leading people to run across my earlier post which I've truncated above, I realized that said people may be wondering why the included link now leads to naught save a notice that the clip was removed due to a "terms of use violation".

Well, yesterday, on Thursday, January 3rd, it seems that NBC Universal ordered the video-sharing site Youtube to remove ONE clip from my "CheeZeeTeeVee Channel" thereupon (the clip showed Bonzo Dog Band/Rutles co-founder Neil Innes performing a tune on NBC's late-night program "SNL" in the late 1970s).

The clip had been included among the large "library" of cool & strange videos posted at CZTV for a good six months without incident, but apparently, the season of SNL from whence the clip was culled is being issued on DVD, and so the network's parent company wished to have it excised from the CZTV site. This was, of course, a reasonable action, and in fact, I had  posted a comment mere days before expressing my own hopes that the rare and delightful performance by Innes was indeed, as rumor had it at the time, going to get the deluxe commercial release that it deserved.

However, before I even spotted an email from Youtube in my inbox regarding their receipt of a communication from NBC, I discovered that Youtube had completely and irreversibly deleted every single file from CZTV --including numerous rare and obscure Daniel Johnston performances and conceptual videos -- and had permanently canceled my Youtube account altogether.

Some of the Johnston-centric works were clips that I had shot and/or edited myself, such as the stark and shadowy slo-mo visuals accompanying the previously unheard track "Grievance/Greensleeves"(from a 1982 prototype of the "More Songs of Pain" album that Dan made for me 20 years ago; in other cases like the extremely popular B&W "Funeral Home" video directed by Tim Hamblin in 1986, the videos were posted with the full awareness and permission of the works' creators. Needless to add, I never made a red cent from the hours of labor I put into assembling and maintaining the CZTV video library.

Nevertheless, all the links which previously led curious web-crawlers to the works named above, and/or to any material from my own personal creative work and rare video archives collected at CZTV, now dead-end at patently false messages claiming that the videos have all been deleted in the name of such "terms of use violations".

Daniel and I recently shot some video footage at his home in Waller, Texas, which I have not yet posted due to problems with my editing software (in fact, nothing new had been added to the site in several months). It is with great sadness and no little disgust that I must now inform you, Daniel's fans and friends, that access to not only these previously cleared audiovisual gems at CheeZeeTeeVee, but also the new material that Dan and I wished to share with you, will no longer be available for public viewing [not through Youtube, at any rate!]

That's it -- I just wanted to let you all know that this matter has been taken out of my hands so you all know and understand the situation. I hope that over the past year and a half, you enjoyed the free and uncensored access to the clips of "Rejected" and "I'm a Believer" [live w/Rhythm Rats 1997], "Live & Let Die" [ACTV in-house studio performance 2001], and even silliness like my own "Not Daniel Johnston" rendition of "Milking the Dog" (in answer to "Walking the Cow", naturally!)

It was fun while it lasted... but it would seem that, due to the blind greed and ever-tightening grasp of worldwide corporate a$$holism, as represented by supposedly
freedom-, fun-, and art-based global internet outlets as Youtube (aka SCREWTUBE)...

Some things WON'T last a long time.

  - NotDan
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2008, 11:43:59 AM »

That's sad.
It's sucks this happened to your library dude.
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 10:26:00 PM »

dang it all.  this just sucks big hodgies.
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that version of 'funeral home' was my fave.
and i loved the 'greensleeves' piece..

and etc...
   
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2008, 09:05:13 AM »

notdan,

is there a possibility of directly posting
 the clips to the fansite?
 undecided
oh and thanks very much for sharing them with us
at youtube. i watched them many times. 
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2008, 06:40:57 PM »

Sorry to learn of that, notdan -

a$$holism, to be sure -
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2008, 06:57:39 PM »

repost non-copyrighted content ant www.stage6.com. they warn you if they are deleting content and they will undelete if it was an unjustified deletion.
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2008, 11:09:32 PM »

repost non-copyrighted content at www.stage6.com.

I'm currently sifting through a PASSEL of options regarding where to post my video clips from now on; there's a lot of post-Youtube options out there, and each one has its own pluses and minuses. For instance, there's www.imeem.com, the strange and obscure site where I post unreleased songs (and one video) by Dan and myself. Imeem has numerous questionable attributes, like: currently I can't even listen to the songs I put there, although they apparently upload just fine and others can hear them. In fact, if all goes well, I'm gonna post another song* right after I finish this post!

(Also, if ANYONE can figure out the riddle of the IMEEM "download" button that doesn't seem to download anything, please let me know!)

  - notdan

*(Probably either the stereo 4-trak version of "Harley Man" from 1987, or 1996's "Plan 9 From Let It Be"... or maybe something else entirely.)
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2008, 12:17:52 AM »

don't get frustrated and "stay the course."  LOL hate to use george w. satan lingo but it makes sense in this case.  grin
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2008, 07:16:54 PM »

Those corporations always do the right thing. also re: "george w. satan lingo" - WHAT time are you due back at the hospital??
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2008, 09:52:54 AM »

Crapola on YouTube.
Well, MySpace accepts a max of 100 MB.
Sounds like you're a pro with the good gear
and programs that can smash down compression
really good.

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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2008, 11:32:17 AM »

I'm a computer retard.
Either this Forum don't allow personal msg
or I can't figure it out, lol.

WTF, some loudmouths on here need to hear this, anyway.

Hey "notdan," congrats on getting to spend some quality time
with Daniel Johnston.
Somewhere else on this board some goons were jumping you
for no good reason.
If DJ's daddy and brother Dick let you have access to DJ
then they definitely have cleared you as cool.

Things have to be just so and kosher involving DJ and his visitors
as you know.  You've obviously passed muster with DJ's gate keepers.
I've heard that in the past some art dealers would wait for DJ's parents
to go to church, then muscle in on DJ with "Trades" of D quality Beatles vinyl
in return for some of his drawings.

I'm only maybe 30 days into my newfound fascination with DJ's music.
I flat never heard of him until I seen him in the documentary "The Last Record Store."
And from that DVD by Jeff Liese... well, I thought,"wtf is this weird dude doing
walking into a record store with a out of tune guitar and singing!?!"

I forgot about DJ, but then months later Goggled him and was hooked after hearing him as a youngster as well as some decent later concerts when he's
feeling more "On."  For as you know, he's "Off" a lot of the time, unfortunately.

If you have any idea how Daniel achieves that unique flat tuning of his guitar would you tell me?

A new DJ fan!

--Sonney 
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2008, 05:08:07 PM »

Crap!!!

I didn't find out about such a thing as "Daniel Johnston" until
late April I guess.  So I missed the boat on those clips for sure.

Seen something recent on here about Daddy & Dick being in negotiations
with Universal.
Guess you've still got your files?

Anyway, from your earlier e-mail to me it seems that Daddy & Dick are tightening things up concerning DJ.
They'll get payed plenty to hand over their film and sound archives to Universal for use in the new Documentary or made for TV movie or whatever is cooking.

Their stance is probably a big, fat, "Didn't Happen" when it comes to your footage.

If you can squeeze clips down to 25 MB you could post them on YourFileHost.Com
if nothing else, and post the links here.

But don't listen to me, as I think you've got some valuable stuff there potentially.
Especially if big Dan's pancreas shuts down and he has a sugar seizure that puts him down for the grave.

Sounds interesting, and wish I'd seen them before A$$Tube deleted then.

---Sonney
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2008, 05:17:35 PM »

"Especially if big Dan's pancreas shuts down and he has a sugar seizure that puts him down for the grave."

Pretty harsh, man. Not cool.
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2008, 06:38:55 PM »

Not cool at all - what an awful thing to post. undecided
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2008, 07:28:53 PM »

he's a self proclaimed "new DJ fan!"

ne·o·phyte
It hasn't clicked yet.

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