I don't spend much time here these days, but looking at a SPAM report, this caught my eye. So I ramble...
Daniel does not "think" that the U.S.A. is "evil", or misguided or even off-track. He is not given to the current day's political mob mentality does not travel with the anti-Bush crowd. People regularly read their private political or religious / non-religious persuasions into Daniel, and that is called "projection." It happens. We live with it. Big deal! We don't get "offended" or demand retractions.
For example, images like
http://store.hihowareyou.com/images/products/S2505-Whitney-med.jpg with "God Bless America" doing a heil-hitler style salute, a swastika on his arm, and "Fear Yourself" at the bottom, is not a political commentary on the U.S.A. or a statement that the U.S. is evil. I've asked him, and its not part of his sentiment. If it's not possible for you to see anything except that when you look at a piece like this, then you might want to consider if you are projecting your sentiments on other things as well.
Secondly, you might want to consider that SHOULD Daniel Dale Johnston have a view about something (such as the imagery on the dollar bill as he rambled on in a mentally bizarre state), it doesn't define reality or become a cause to defend or a club to beat over a fellow man's head.
Daniel is delightfully insightful about a lot of things, and that might promote us to listen more carefully to lots of things he says. When that happens, there's lots of neat stuff there. (Sorry. Yes, I still use the word "neat"). However...
Depite hysterical states of his mental illness where he might speak with a lot of "conviction", he doesn't proclaim himself a medium or wizard or prophet, AND IF HE DID, you would be foolish to accept that as a VALID or TRUE statement. (How to tell the difference is subject for another discussion)
We err if we treat what he says, means, or doesn't say or mean as a "cause" to be defended to the "verbal death"
Third, I appeal to you to hold to your senses even in this cyber world. Don't surrender all personal respect in petty verbal disputes with your cyber brother where you surrender dignity and restraint to insult and press "SEND" for some worldly gratification in a momentary and meaningless exchange.
We give near-full lattitude in this forum, but sometimes it might be appropriate to clamor for some review of the quality and worthiness of exchanges here.
If you are to engage in battle by Daniel's definition, it is a battle we must do with ourself. If you haven't figured it out yet, the most pressing battle with Satan is something you do with yourself and about yourself.
If you want to get excited about something, defend something, or fight for something OUTSIDE YOURSELF, let it be a a selfless and worthy thing, and let the fight will be done with respect. When that happens, winning may "feel" like loosing. So lose! Because if it is RIGHT, that kind of loss is winning - This, of course, is said for those of you who can understand that kind of language - which lojomcgatta should understand.
Fourth: be FAIR in your words. To be "FAIR" to me would not be to portray me as I am at my worse. Neither at my rare best. But a fair portrayal would not portray me only as my worst even in the heat of a debate - to do so would show you look only for my demise for personal gratification.
It is not necessary to be verbally abusive to make a point. When you do that with names, expletives or disparaging speech, it does not sustain your view at all. Period. It doesn't do that. It MIGHT allow you to BELIEVE inside yourself for personal gratification that you've made a point, but it injects a destructive poison in everyone who listens.
If you loose the internal battle and give in by pressing "SEND" with a petty put-down, you are forfeiting something precious in yourself that is hard (not impossible) to retrieve when lost. Anyone who doesn't stumble in their words is perfect in every way. We all mess up. But we don't have to make a habit of it.
Finally logomcgatto: The original post in this thread says "Daniel displays america as the beast" - you then deny that there is any meaning except what your words insist. Well, instead of us guessing whether you have a point or not, display the art you are talking about. Email it to me at
dejected@rejectedunknown.com and I'll post it here.
Also, logomcgatto: I might surprise a lot of people by AGREEING with many things you say, but I'm sorry to have to say: shame on you for this KIND of talk (yes, an old fashion "SHAME" statement!!) saying things like: "excatly fool talking dosent prove that i am wrong fool. I win god always wins"
Who calls other men "fools"? Who are you to love from the heart and love as yourself? What arrogance would cause you to declare a self-proclaimed "win" by putting others down? YOU know what I'm talking about.
Do you think you have some great insight to tell others? If you can't say it in love, you don't have the right to say it BY YOUR OWN VIEW of right and wrong. Shape up or stay off the board. Can you respond to a brotherly rebuke or is the beast in you going to have the upper hand in this?
Mentally stable or not doesn't mean you are exempt from these rules. You will have to control yourself in regard to how you feel about and treat others while you say what is on your mind.
If you want to talk to me about this, email me at
dejected@rejectedunknown.com.
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