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« on: November 12, 2003, 04:35:06 PM »

Arrrgh! Have you SEEN all those songs listed in the archive collection being offered on ebay? Why taunt us so? Rent is past due, I'm living on coffee and eggs, the cat is almost out of ACME Cat food, and I'm sitting here actually considering how much I can bid if I get a 2nd job, at night, at the local copy store! Or maybe I can donate some plasma. Or sell off all my early Spiderman's I've been holding onto since I was 5...
(Deep breath... let it go...think calm thoughts...)
It's gonna be real interesting to see what these go for.
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2003, 12:17:42 AM »

Henry,

Let the people with money spend it on these fancy CDs.   We'll see that and more in the archival over time.

Anyway, I've heard you can O.D. on these things, and thirteen CDs at once may put you over the edge!    shocked   (I hate those smileys, but there - I used one!)  

Hey!  Administrator - we need our OWN kind of smileys - maybe daniels' art, with skulls and devils, etc..

Is this a connected thought?   At the ATP festival, Sonic Youth ended by shouting "stay off Xanex!!!"   I thought that was hilarious!

There, Henry, are you distracted enough? Shocked   Ouch!  Did I do that again?
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2003, 06:28:10 PM »

No, 13 discs is too FEW.
But I'm confused... the Ebay description says these are "approved" by DJ - and points us to dejected for information, implying (at least) that there's some kind of connection between y'all.

Dejected... is this stuff going to be made available to the Faithful (i.e., here) at some point, either for purchase or download? A positive answer will certainly steer some of us away from over-the-top Ebay prices...

And, okay, while I'm here... a couple of more notes on the current crop of MP3s...

Remember the "withdrawn" MP3 from month #1, which turned out to be nothing more than Dylan's "Apple Suckling Tree" (from the "Basement Tapes")? By some bizarre coincidence, "Hot Dog Burning Tonight" (from month #2) has the exact same tune as "Apple Suckling Tree."

I also missed one of the Beatles corrections - minor, I know, but it should be "Getting Better," not "It's Getting Better." Shame on ME!

Finally - and excuse me if you all know this already - but Daniel's hour-long appearance on WFMU Radio from 1990 was recently rebroadcast and is available as streaming audio from WFMU's website (which, if you've got a Mac, you can capture with a handy little program called "wiretap"). I'd never heard this show before, and it was great fun. "Speeding Motorcycle" was lifted from this broadcast for the single (and Yo La Tengo's compilation CD), but they also join Daniel for "Casper The Friendly Ghost" and "Whispering Hope". Daniel does a lot of comedy routines, and double tracks himself at times. Some other highlights are a great version of "A Lonely Song" and an up-tempo "Devil Town" (of all things!). The whole thing ends with Daniel singing along to the 5th Dimension's "Aquarious." Great!
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2003, 11:26:58 PM »

Can you give us a link on the WFMU streaming radio?

That's interesting about Hot Dog Burning tonight - thinking about it I can't image how it would be the same - but let me check.

"It's getting better" because of your input - that is fixed. thanks.

Okay - the "word on the streets" about the RARITIES CD sets is that unless you HAVE a lot of money to burn, this shouldn't be a "gotta have" purchase.  They are well done and a very "clean" way to accummulate some delightful stuff, but you don't need to pawn your guitar.

It is my conviction that in due corse "MEMBERS" will hear everything on these that is worth hearing and more.

The RARITIES certainly "complicates" any official discography list for collectors.   My take is to classify these as "bootlegs".  Interestingly, Daniel regards about half of the early tapes as bootlegs - the "lost recordsing" 1 and 2, Frankenstein love (for sure) and some others.  They've become such staple tapes in the list, though, that they aren't treated as such.

I think I would want to regard any regular "bootleg" that contained UNIQUE material (songs not previously published) as a candidate for the discography list.  That way the discography list will identify all published recordings that you need to have a "complete" set of songs, etc.   Also these are a "one-time" replication of less than 20 complete sets (I really don't know the number of copies made).
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2003, 11:28:56 PM »

The RARITIES set on ebay is at $147 US already - with 2 days to go in the auction.

THat's MORE than $10 a CD!!   That's maybe not bad, but then who can afford to buy 14+ CDs at one time even at that price?
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2003, 11:42:43 PM »

Right >$10.00 a CD is crazy, particularly when I look at the track listings and subtract everything I already have (the singles), interviews and cover versions... and it appears to come out to a couple of discs of stuff.

Ah, well, glad to hear it'll pop up here eventually.

RE: Bootlegs
Interesting Daniel would consider "Lost Recordings" and "Frankenstein Love" to be bootlegs - makes me wonder what definition he's using. Obviously these were issued by Stress with Daniel's approval, so there's no rights issues. Maybe he just means he never saw them as "real" albums, but more as fillers or odds and ends type things (I guess Live at SXSW would be in there as well, then).

Hmm.

Anyway, the link for the radio show is:

http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/AC

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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2003, 11:51:33 PM »

It's occurred to me before that some of the singles are not found elsewhere and are TOO GOOD not to be available SOMEWHERE (since the singles are out of print) - they probably need to go on some regular CD compliation as an album (evenutally).
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2003, 12:43:50 PM »

The radio show is SO AMAZING.
Anybody know how I can capture it on PC???
Some of the versions of his songs here is the best ones. Especially the first song, on this version the melody really stands out!!!
HELP ME OUT WITH THE PC THING PLZ!!!
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2003, 12:59:36 PM »

The radio show is SO AMAZING.
Anybody know how I can capture it on PC???
Some of the versions of his songs here is the best ones. Especially the first song, on this version the melody really stands out!!!
HELP ME OUT WITH THE PC THING PLZ!!!
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2003, 05:46:24 PM »

You can capture just about any AUDIO using GoldWave, which you can download FREE from http://www.goldwave.com.  It allows you to record from OS devices, hence you can capture streaming audio.

When recording, create a NEW sound, and set the LENGTH long enough to get the whole thing (1 hr = 60:00:00).

Then in the DEVICE CONTROL panel, select PROPERTIES button, select DEVICE tab, and then choose whichever INPUT device in the list "works" - probably for streaming sound, select "Microsoft Sound Mapper".  If one doesn't work, try another.

FYI, GoldWave becomes much more powerful when you install an audio-format-conversion codec like LIGOS (http://www.ligos.com/indeo.htm?downloads).   There are others, and that one isn't free.

Without the driver, you'll be able to save as a WAV file, and then go from there.   Good luck!
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2003, 06:17:29 PM »

I just tried it, and it works as described.  Good luck!
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2003, 06:35:01 PM »

Thanks alot dejected! I'm gonna download it rightaway and then Im gonna burn the show on cd so I can listen to all those great songs!
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2003, 07:16:13 PM »

The session is 1 hour and 6 minutes -  60 minute session isn't enough - make it 70 or so for recording to make sure you get the whole thing!
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2003, 07:46:07 PM »

yeah I will and I'm gonna do tracks on the cd so I can select diffrent parts so I can just go to the song or segment that I feel like listening to. This show is so great and so funny. Daniel could have been a comedian or an actor apart from already being a musician and painter as far as I'm concerned.
Are there more stuff like this? Don't need to be radio. Anybody have when Daniel was on MTV in the 80's (that famous one called cutting edge when they were in Austin)? I've never seen it just heard about it.
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2003, 10:13:00 PM »

Yeah, there's a lot.   And the more we can get people to COUGH UP what they've got - the more we'll all have to enjoy.

You HAVE been to the MEMBERS area, right?

http://www.rejectedunknown.com/private317Aa/

The two MTV appearances are being "held back" at the request of the director of the movie "Yip Jump Movie" until AFTER the movie is out.  After that - which may be a year off - we'll make sure everyone who wants it has the whole thing.

That's not to say you might not be able to find SOME FAN who will share it with you in trade, etc.   Just that DEJECTED and REJECTEDUNKNOWN are " restraining themselves" at the request of the filmmakers....
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