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« on: May 14, 2004, 03:23:03 AM »

I think Daniel should tie these words together for a smash hit:
   'Circumference of their Hoops'
It is a youthful failing to be unable to control one's impulses
It is pleasant at times to play the madman
It is rash to condemn where you are ignorant
It's the admirer and the watcher who provoke us to all the inanities we commit
You want to live—but do you know how to live? You are scared of dying—and, tell me, is the kind of life you lead really any different from being dead?
What was hard to suffer is sweet to remember
Every guilty person is her own hangman
Remove severe restraint and what will become of virtue
Remember that pain has this most excellent quality. If prolonged it can be severe, and if severe it can be prolonged
A man who suffers before it is necessary, suffers more than is necessary
To be feared is to fear:  one has been able to strike terror into others and at the same time enjoy peace of mind
No one can wear a mask for very long
No one should feel pride in anything that is not his own
Why do people not confess vices? It is because they have not yet laid them aside
Success consecrates the most offensive crimes

Your Humble Servant,
SILENCE DOGOOD
(A Bookish Boy too vain)
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2004, 01:47:23 PM »

I think Daniel should tie these words together for a smash hit:

FLEE, my friend, into your solitude! I see you deafened with the noise of the great men, and stung all over with the stings of the little ones.

Forest and rock know how to be silent with you. Be like the tree which you love, the broad-branched one- silently and attentively it overhangs the sea.

Where solitude ends, there begins the market-place; and where the market-place begins, there begins also the noise of the great actors, and the buzzing of the poison-flies.

In the world even the best things are worthless without those who make a side-show of them: these showmen, the people call great men.

Little do the people understand what is great- that is to say, the creator. But they have a taste for all showmen and actors of great things.

Around the creators of new values revolves the world:- invisibly it revolves. But around the actors revolve the people and the glory: such is the course of things.

The actor has spirit, but little conscience of the spirit. He always believes in that with which he most strongly inspires belief - in himself!

Tomorrow he has a new belief, and the day after, one still newer. Like the people, he has quick perceptions and fickle moods.

To defeat- that means for him: to prove. To drive to frenzy- that means for him: to convince. And blood is to him the best of all arguments.

A truth which glides only into refined ears, he calls falsehood and nothing. He believes only in gods that make a big noise in the world!

Full of clattering fools is the market-place,- and the people glory in their great men! These are for them the masters of the hour.

But the hour presses them; so they press you. And also from you they want Yes or No. Alas! would you set your chair between Pro and Con?

Do not be jealous of those unyielding and impatient men, you lover of truth! Never yet did truth cling to the arm of the unyielding.

On account of those abrupt ones, return into your security: only in the market-place is one assailed by Yes? or No?

Slow is the experience of all deep fountains: long have they to wait until they know what has fallen into their depths.

Far away from the market-place and from fame happens all that is great: far away from the market-place and from fame have always dwelt the creators of new values.

Flee, my friend, into your solitude: I see you stung all over by the poisonous flies. Flee to where a rough, strong breeze blows!

Flee into your solitude! you have lived too closely to the small and the pitiful. Flee from their invisible vengeance! For you they have nothing but vengeance.

No longer raise your arm against them! They are innumerable, and it is not your task to shoo flies.

Innumerable are the small and pitiful ones; and rain-drops and weeds have been the ruin of many a proud structure.

You are not stone; but already have you become hollow from many drops. You will yet break and burst from the many drops.

I see you exhausted by poisonous flies; I see you bleeding and torn at a hundred spots; and your pride refuses even to be angry.

They would have blood from you in all innocence; blood is what bloodless souls crave- and therefore they sting in all innocence.

But you, profound one, you suffer too profoundly even from small wounds; and before you have healed, the same poison-worm crawls over your hand.

You are too proud to kill these gluttons. But take care lest it be your fate to suffer all their poisonous injustice!

They buzz around you also with their praise: obtrusiveness is their praise. They want to be close to your skin and your blood.

They flatter you, as one flatters a God or devil; they whimper before you, as before a God or devil; What does it come to! They are flatterers and whimperers, and nothing more.

Often, also, do they show themselves to you as friendly ones. But that has always been the prudence of cowards. Yes! cowards are wise!

They think much about you with their petty souls- you are always suspect to them! Whatever is much thought about is at last thought suspicious.

They punish you for all your virtues. They pardon you entirely- for your errors.

Because you are gentle and of honest character, you say: "Guiltless are they for their small existence." But their petty souls think: "Guilty is every great existence."

Even when you are gentle towards them, they still feel themselves despised by you; and they repay your beneficence with secret maleficence.

Your silent pride is always counter to their taste; they rejoice if once you are humble enough to be vain.

What we recognize in a man, we also irritate in him. Therefore be on your guard against the small ones!

In your presence they feel themselves small, and their baseness gleams and glows against you in invisible vengeance.

You did not see how often they became silent when you approached them, and how their energy left them like the smoke of an waning fire?

Yes, my friend, you are the bad conscience of your neighbors, for they are unworthy of you. Therefore they hate you, and would rather suck your blood.

Your neighbors will always be poisonous flies; what is great in you- that itself must make them more poisonous, and always more fly-like.

Flee, my friend, into your solitude- and there, where a rough strong breeze blows. It is not your lot to shoo flies.-

 

Thus spoke Zarathustra.

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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2004, 02:34:45 PM »

That's the thing with Nietzsche (and Zarathustra's problem as well):
People can use their words to defend or encourage all kinds of ****.

Seriously, man.
Whenever I have reason to doubt what I might say or write or act upon, I ask myself, "Is this for the greater good?" and proceed from an honest response from my heart. If something may be hurtful, or coming from my own personal fear or pain, does it really need to be shared? We've all had the experience of being disrespected or intentionally wounded by another's words or actions, so we must ask ourselves "Is this worth continuing the hurt?" and go from there.

My humble advice, and it is only that, is to best use this forum to celebrate the remarkable creativity and sensitivity this truly nice guy Daniel Johnston has brought into the world, correspond with each other over like interests and activities, and leave the crap for either your therapist (who gets paid to listen to it) or whatever friends and relatives you may have who do not have a problem suffering fools.

Or maybe take up a nice hobby, like puzzles.

Or volunteering at the local SPCA.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I just think in this case, it would be for the greater good.
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2004, 03:41:44 PM »

Right On!!! You said it Henry!!! Cheesy

I myself have never understood why or the idea of hanging up your own fears/pains & other crap on, say, canvases and then up on gallery walls, feelings that really doesen´t concern other people. angry

Wasn´t the idea of art "in the beginning" to bring joy to other people? Yes, i think so. smiley

I see Daniel´s art & music as very positive and uplifting, still gets that smile on my face and makes me forget all the evil things in the world(even though he might be singing of satan). Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2004, 07:47:37 PM »

To Henry Long:
You want the greater good?  But you yourself are part of that "rabble" of which Nietzsche writes.  The greater good of a stinking waste?  Of course you wish for the greatest good for the greatest number of people - the rabble - for you cling to your wretched life as surely as any genius.  Why don't you desire the greatest good for the select few of man who are great and so far above you that you cannot see them?  Because you cannot see them!
Yes, those are my OWN words!
And I doubt this post will last long, since it strikes deeply into the truth and causes a great stinging pain to the inferior!
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2004, 11:04:16 PM »

See Kyle or Stan here,
looking at Cartman in utter disgust and/or disbelief:

"Wow, dude. You suck. I mean, you really, really suck."







I'm out.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2004, 09:41:14 PM »

Speaking to everyone except our "guest", we're all trying to put into perspective what "good" is intended, and of course, no good is intended.  It is someone looking in the mirror describing self in an endless stream of grandiose  comparisons - which usually sound like "you know nothing, I alone have true insight and virture, you are pitiful and useless while I am a god among you."

Well, here's my point (actually my point will be made by "guest" in a "response") - these are entities that morph to avoid accepting any point  - the only "point" is to draw attention.  Period.

They are angered by any form of rejection, but they reject categorically.  Go figure.  There is no "cornering them on an issue" or "making a point".  It is not possible.  If you point this out, they will immediately conceded on some pointless point, just to make your point wrong!  And then giggle in their little world - a kind of "high" for the moment.

It is a worthy exercise for everyone else at some point to stop and take a good hard look at this condition, so they can spot it and avoid wasting too much energy on it.   They leave us only one option, the one thing that infuriates them to most, to move one and turn out attention elsewhere..

If you "respond" you only heap insults upon yourself.  Gleeful and giddy at his keyboard imagining that he, like the sasser worm author, has "made a difference" in the world, and therefore is the center of the universe.   Their universe.  

There is no point.  

I haven't been back to this board for a while, but understand there has been some pointless activity.  I will make no apologies for moderators who block and delete such posts.   Call us "censors" or "unfair" or make the personal attacks.  They can pout and demand and shout injustice all they want.   They will, of course, be doing that till the day they die.  They hope to incite our indignation - and they may have some success, but then it's over.
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2004, 01:53:51 AM »

How bout´, a suggestion:

As the "Guest" stated "Yes, those are my OWN words!", then who are you, guest?
Sign in and make a statement in your own name and stop hiding under the guest status!  evil ..pisses me off!.. evil

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